Why is the default workflow now metal
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With the latest release it seems there is no way to create a PBR Specular mix
All my previous PBR Specular mixes now look strange.
Paint layers are not being turned on as they do not work in a metal workflow (error message)
I used Mixer as it was free to create a number of mixes with non Megascans textures.
I imported these as custom surfaces and now they all look strange.
Is there a way to set a PBR specular workfflow.
Or can I use an old version of Mixer.
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Official comment
VitLoss Metalness is not case of catering to "beginners" but rather focusing on the main user base that we have. Metalness users outnumber specular and gloss by a significant number. You're still able to export to S/G from the Metalness workflow so this should have a minimal impact. Regardless, thank you for your feedback. As we don't have any plans to change this, the thread has run its course. We'll keep your feedback for future reference in the case that this policy changes in Mixer's development. Thank you!
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Mixer 2020 now only supports the Metalness workflow.
Please have a look at this article - https://help.quixel.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006289478-Is-Specular-Workflow-supported-in-Mixer-2020- -
Yes I can see it in the drop down but changing to it does nothing.
Every time I import a local surface that was a custom import it defaults back to Metallic and the surface looks weird.
The thumbnail looks okay in Bridge but when Mixer opens it, it changes all the displacement/height and albedo/diffuse values.
So what should be vibrant colors became washed out and over exposed I then have to go and adjust all the settings to get it back to the way it should look.
This never happened in the old version or even previous version of mixer.
These custom surfaces that I created are used in 3D renders not just game engines.
Mixer worked fine before and now my workflow has been interrupted by having to adjust individual layers then save them again before I can use them.
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Johnathan I get that your user base is now mainly game designers who work with Unreal engine and it's Metallic workflow but that wasn't always the case. Before the sale to Epic for example what about all the Unity developers who used a specular workflow. Or all the artists who used a specular workflow. I would be interested in what percentage of your user base is considered as "Main".
I get that this is now a free resource for Unreal developers and as such Epic gets to call the shots I'm just disappointed that they decided to forget all the users that you had before they came along.
I mean even if I pay for a subscription there is no point as I still could not work with all the custom mixes that I made using non megascan textures.
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I definitely get your frustration Jimbo. It’s kind of the same I had when a “free” engine made all their assets free, but people who pay money only get a very limited amount every month. I too would love to know the ratio of Unreal users vs other users. Since if they made it “free” for Unreal, that must be a huge source of their income in comparison to subscribers in VFX or other game engines.
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We haven't forgotten anyone; we're simply adjusting the way we develop Mixer with a focus toward our largest customer base. Metalness users make up a very significant number of the artists working with the tools we develop. I realize that this causes an inconvenience for people primarily focused on Gloss/Specular workflows. Ultimately this decision was not made lightly but it was made for this current iteration of Mixer. Whether Gloss/Specular makes a comeback as a primary focus is not something I can speculate on publicly. The concerns brought up here are noted and are certainly not ignored - we've had plenty of discussions revolving around this topic internally but for now the course we're on is the one we're sticking with.
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Due to the fact that beginners clutch at the first thing they get and more often use metalness workflow ... you draw erroneous conclusions ...
The metalness workflow is not convenient, and is less clear in work ...
it's terrible that you are doing this ...
just take and cut off all who work in the spesular workflow ... a great idea! (((
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